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Sep 17 2012, 8:48 PM
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Sirenix Fairy
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From: Canada
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QUOTE (P-girl @ Sep 14 2012, 01:31 AM) To be fair, warrior training probably isn't something that can be done in four years. Agreed. And if anything what theyre enrolled in is probably similar to the army then highschool or university. Its where they work and train until theyre stationed somewhere, and since they are called to assist the winx with big problems so often, maybe thats the reason theyve never been deployed elsewhere so they can remain on standby at RF. So its a bit refreshing to see drama directed at flora for a change, even if it is another romance situation, but still a change from bloom, stella or Musa and their BF. Layla's drama was at least her boyfriend dieing instead of fighting over a girl, not that I want any of them to die. Still Flora's problem could have been avoided if Helia introduced her as his girlfriend instead of his friend, which puzzles me that his first instinct is to say friend after all their years. Then he didnt man up and correct himself, just ummed and uhhed as she marched him off. Was nice to see someone else from linphea though, also makes it final and clear that flora is not the princess (though i think it was just the second movie that messed with things mostly). I wonder how Helia got to know Crystal though, as far as im aware hes not from linphea, but it never said he wasnt either. I guess he's not so bad off being the grandson of the headmaster of RF, but still don't know how he got to be buddy buddy with the princess. Interesting to see whats going on with Techna in the next episode to. Nice to involve the less used characters for a change. Though Timmy acting all shy around Tecna in this episode puzzles me a bit to. Like Sky's new hair but its not helping with the whole feeling sorry for himself image. He's being a bit of a nutcase over the pendant, even Brandon told him to suck it up, though the Amnesia will be a bit fun. Makes sense about Diaspro reappearing now.
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Sep 18 2012, 2:17 PM
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Cosmix Fairy
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I have to be honest here... the sky losing his memory thing is predictable. Secondly, this time winx is definitely targeted only for kids of 5-10 yrs old, unlike the previous winx series they have include more action but lesser concept of the story.
After watching season 4, I already find that they have already lost the climax for the show, and season 5 just makes it much more plainer. To me, I just feel that Secret of the lost kingdom is already an ending. An ending for the whole story (since it's mainly about bloom) and personally, I think that it's better that they end it there instead of continuing I know, I as a winx fan also wanted to see winx continue, but what's the point of continuing the show when the climax and the story are already done, like literary when it has already come to an end?
As an audience when I was young, I know why Straffi wants to keep winx alive, mainly its because of the young audience out there who wants winx to continue their adventure. I grow up with winx, so I don't mind when the show must go on. But right now, my perspective view for winx is far off different from the audience, or probably because I am working in a similar industry or my point of view changed as I get older. The climax of the story is already gone, leaving the actions of the story (like sky losing his memory and Tecna become a evil creature.) is like just trying to serve a bowl of plain soup without any seasoning. Looks good but tasteless.
The whole drama thing is just trying to catch the audience's anticipation, like hoping for a happy ending etc. I know I know, it's only season 5 episode 4, I should not be certain that overall the whole series sucks, and everyone is going to hate me for what I said. But judging from the way that it's going on, I am sure that besides trying to kill the bad guy and fight the trix, they have absolute have ran out of idea so they have to keep winx alive by just putting in more drama that's obviously what fanfic writers will do.
I know i sound utterly sarcastic now, and I am sure that most of the young audience will hate me for what I've said. But not only as a filmmaker, but also as an older gen audience I personally feel that if they want winx to be alive and yet at the same time keeping the climax of the plot for the series they should have carefully build up a strong concept for the series, and secondly too much drama will kinda ruin the concept you're trying to tell the audience, a little should be fine (But Sky losing his memory is a bit too much.... I admit I had enough of the bloom sky drama thing but for this season right after he lost a frickin' pendant and being emo for the rest of his life and for no reason lost his memory.... it's a bit too much. At least season 3 they controlled it quite okay.) To be honest, from season 1 to 3 and the Secret of the lost kingdom at least I roughly know the concept of the story is to believe in yourself although you have to go through a lot of obstacles to find what you desire. But from season 4 onwards I have no frickin idea what the hell is it about, and right now season 5 from what I see is saving environment, sky being emo and this show becomes a drama series instead sticking on the fantasy genre.
I apologise for such long, full of sarcasm review, but I am disappointed for what my teenagehood show has become. I hope that I will not be killed right after everyone sees this. For now, I am just a honest person who's just giving my truthful opinion. It's not just winx, I will also definitely give my honest review to my other favourite show as well. I'm just being fair.
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Sep 18 2012, 3:40 PM
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Cosmix Fairy
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QUOTE (P-girl @ Sep 18 2012, 10:26 PM) Y'know, it's not just younger kids loving this season. I'm a regular at the Winx Club Livejournal, which is comprised of mostly older Winx fans, and they're loving it thusfar. So the 'Only kids might like this' assumption is a bit unfounded. Also, I don't like the 'My childhood is ruined because it's not as good' sort of thinking. Did this season travel back in time and made the (In your eyes) good stuff bad or something? Like you said, it went downhill for you after The Secret of the Lost Kingdom and that seemed to be the end. It's quite easy to declare everything after that non-canon if you really want to. It's what I did after one of my favorite series had a lousy part (Tekken 4 never happened.) What I meant was I can no longer feel the climax of the story, as the new concept of the story are not clear, well to me. Secondly, the reason why I make a comparison of the previous and the current one is not because that the new one ruined my impression for winx or something, it's because as an audience it is important that what's the story is about. Season 1 till the first winx movie, i know what's the concept about, although it's not perfect but at least it's strong and it's there. Well at least season 4 I get to know that it centres about Roxy although it's a bit disappointment due to the lack of the concept, but now currently I see no concept for this series at all, like really. I know it's only been a few episode, but from these few episode I have absolute no idea what the hell is it about, and secondly the drama just makes it even much more confusing. i don't get what Straffi is trying to tell in this season, but for me the concept of the story is more important than the actions/drama that's in the show. Different people have different opinions, for me I'm just assuming that straffi targeted only the kids because of the styles he's doing/showing it right now, and I didn't say that the older winx fans won't like it. For me, I love the way they have improved the animation, and the timing have obviously improved a lot better. But what I really concern about the most is the concept and what is it that it's trying to tell the audience. I find this important because not just thinking as the perspective of a filmmaker, but also an audience who is curious of what is the director is trying to tell. Even if it's like a stupidest comedy show ever, I am certain that the director is trying to tell us something. I am disappointed because Straffi just.... lost the touch of it. I can't possibly say that it's awesome, as I think that it will be a lie as a fan and also a disrespect for Straffi, but i cannot say it's that bad either. At least they have improved on the animation, timing, anticipation and the character design. At least these are few few points i find it good so far. I am disappointed, but I never say that "oh i'll stop watching it cuz it sucks." because my review doesn't end here, as I need to watch the whole series to add in more/re-write my opinions. So far, these are the assumptions I had while watching the first few episodes, as I really really don't understand a single bit of what it's trying to tell and is confused. All I know that it's drama and they're trying to save the world again, nothing else. I have absolute no idea what's going on besides them trying to get serinix and lots of drama occurs.
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Sep 18 2012, 4:05 PM
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Cosmix Fairy
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QUOTE (P-girl @ Sep 18 2012, 11:43 PM) Are you talking about the theme of the season? Because to me, that one's very obvious to the point they're slamming us over the head with toxic waste barrels. That said, I'm personally not someone who minds wether or not something has an overarcing theme or not. And I'm personally not looking forward to Harmonix and Sirenix. Believix's design was awesome and the new transformations, to me at least, is a huge drop in awesome-ness. (They all look the same! Seriously.) The word "Theme" is more to describe of their genre/their world (Magical, mystical etc) I would describe it as "A moral of the story that includes "what" and "why" in it." You don't need a perfect concept for an animation, you just need to let the audience understand what you're trying to tell. The environment thing episode is obviously there, but that that's not the series are trying to tell isn't it? Why I am confused is because they include a lot of ideas inside and i have no idea which one is the one that they're trying to say. Therefore i am disappointed because it just makes me think that they don't have a concept for this season at all, the animation and the drama thing is the one that pulls the audience, thurs it somehow makes some scenes predictable, well to me, and also I can't even have a rough idea of what's going on.
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Sep 19 2012, 6:44 PM
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Believix Fairy
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Everyone's entitled to their own opinion :) and personally.....season 5 rocks so far! It's everything I've ever wanted! Fairies, magic on Earth, mermaids, witches, a curse, underwater adventures, being environentally friendly....it's like the creators literally found me and decided 'you know what? let's make something he's been dreaming of!' I'm gonna miss Believix so much when it goes though I haven't liked a transformation this much since magic winx/charmix :/ Harmonix and sirenix are cool....but just not winx enough. I wish there was a way they could keep their believix and use harmonix/sirenix to go underwater only.
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