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post Nov 14 2009, 9:57 PM
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/Nitpick

Werewolves aren't supposed to be Wolf men. (Even tough the 'Were' in Werewolf stands for 'Man' /random factoid.), they are supposed to go fully wolf when they transform. Just bigger and far more dangerous. For as far as I know, Myer got that part right better then most modern interpretations, so I give her some points for that.
She loses them, however, for excluding the full moon and giving them full control. Werewolves aren't supposed to have control over their wolf-form. It was a Jekyll and Hyde analogy (Not being able to control one's beastly urges) before Jekyll and Hyde was written.

/Nitpick.

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post Nov 15 2009, 12:10 AM
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And going back to your family, friends comment, P-Girl, that really ticked me off as well. I mean Bella doesn't even ccare about her friends and uses them only when she needs them. And in New Moon Bella's all miffed at the fact Jessica's mad at her, and doesn't get it, because SHE WAS JUST HEARING EDDIE'S VOICE. But Jessica was scared that Bella was walking towards weird men, and it was kind of obvious the thought's running through the poor girl's mind. ANd then when Jessica is all cold to Bella, Meyer decides to make a her only wanting to be friends with Bella in Midnight Sun(the re-write of Twilight), because she's popular. So friends aren't allowed to be mad at others for only thinking of their boyfriends, and thus, potentially putting them in danger? Fail Steph, fail.

And don't get me started on Bella's thoughts about her father.


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post Nov 15 2009, 3:50 AM
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She loses them, however, for excluding the full moon and giving them full control. Werewolves aren't supposed to have control over their wolf-form. It was a Jekyll and Hyde analogy (Not being able to control one's beastly urges) before Jekyll and Hyde was written.

Completely agree there.


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post Nov 15 2009, 10:21 AM
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Thanks. In fact, for me, that's part of the werewolve's appeal. They're almost tragic figures. They can't help it that they turn into monsters. And as a continuation on that, people who became werewolves volunteraly [sic] become that more heinous in comparison, to willingly lose all control in a society obsessed with self-control.
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post Nov 17 2009, 5:43 AM
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*steps in* I know it's already late but anyway...

I have just started reading twilight, simply because I was curious what all the hype and obssesin was about. I am about half way through and have to say it's nothing to be excited about...just your average teen horror and romance novel.

It is not written well, very sraight foreward and limited discription just a sequence of events. Why does everyone likes it so much I don't understand I mean...the idea isn't even original! Other vampire novels are largely similar and I doubt they were as hyped as Twilight.


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post Nov 17 2009, 6:12 AM
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Yeah, I read the first one right after the movie came out at see what it was about and pretty much threw it at a wall when I was done, annoyed with myself that I'd wasted perfectly good time reading that, that could have been better used to do most anything.

It's just like, boring. Not entertaining at all and has totally been done before, many times. Which explains why the author's getting sued for the 4th book I believe.


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post Nov 19 2009, 5:07 AM
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hey uh the book is like a teen/young adult book right? Then I quote.
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Like what? Shouldn't the movie be rated like PG 14?


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post Nov 19 2009, 9:31 AM
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all i have to say is that twilight roooooooooooooooockzzzzzzzzzz!!!
they just showed it yesterday for the 100th time and i still watched it!!
i can't wait to see the 2nd movie!!


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post Nov 19 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Toriamelio @ Nov 19 2009, 06:07 AM) *
hey uh the book is like a teen/young adult book right? Then I quote.



Like what? Shouldn't the movie be rated like PG 14?


Er.... I know it's just the first movie/book, but this IS the series with the.... (Beneath spoiler tags because it's squicky) Fang-assisted ceasarian,, right? *Shudders* And the messages of staying with abusive/stalker boyfriends because they're hot were in it from the start. Cause THAT'S the morality that young girls need. *Sigh*

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post Dec 15 2009, 5:56 PM
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Lol, P-Girl's against Twilight? I'm shocked. icon_razz.gif


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post Dec 16 2009, 4:54 AM
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So me, my friend who is also and anti, and my brother (one of the four males there) all went and saw the New Moon midnight premiere. I actually liked this movie better than the first. There was more intentionally amusing moments, the graphics for the wolves was done well, and the fighting was a LOT better than the first movie. So it was an improvement. But still...not really good. Looking forward to the RiffTrax!


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post Dec 16 2009, 6:59 AM
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QUOTE (P-girl @ Nov 19 2009, 10:29 PM) *
Er.... I know it's just the first movie/book, but this IS the series with the.... (Beneath spoiler tags because it's squicky) Fang-assisted ceasarian,, right? *Shudders* And the messages of staying with abusive/stalker boyfriends because they're hot were in it from the start. Cause THAT'S the morality that young girls need. *Sigh*


Ahhh, what I like to call the teeth-section. I was reading, and when that bit came I up, I prety much screamed and threw the book across the room. Not to mention I was eating a passion fruit then, so you cn imagine how that went down.


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post Dec 16 2009, 8:00 AM
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I think fans and anties alike were all 'What was she THINKING!?' on that one. Well, at least it unified the world a bit.....
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post Dec 16 2009, 8:11 AM
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err....what can I say about twilight?

Humm, cute vampires, a big werewolf that you can bake cookies on his stomach? lol pardon me, I think this is what attracts me to Twilight and its saga =P


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post Dec 16 2009, 8:12 AM
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Yeah, I know a lot of Twilight fans who think that at least parts of the last book were really dumb. That part and the Jacob falling in love with a baby made a lot of people feel really squicky :I Including myself.


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post Dec 16 2009, 8:21 AM
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See? Us antis are not so different from fans. And now that I've read the books, I can safely go and say that I don't like them. (They're BORING! I don't care how goodlooking that guy is, get to the ones wanting to rip your throat out! At least that's entertaining.)
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post Dec 16 2009, 8:33 AM
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Man, yes :/ Nothing happens in those books. It's a lot of standing around and Bella thinking about how amazing Edward is and how she is dumb and unworthy, or about how much she hates hurting Jacob but will continue to do it anyways. The actual "plot" could be condensed into about two chapters (and it normally is, at the very end)

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post Dec 16 2009, 8:38 AM
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It could also be because, admittedly, I don't like romance in general.
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:21 AM
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Soooooo, I started re-reading Twilight, and I kinda wanted to post some of my comments somewhere... Would you guys mind if I posted some mini-reviews (slash nitpicking xD) on this topic? I wanted to share my opinion with you all. =D

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post Dec 16 2009, 11:30 AM
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No, go for it! I love things like that =D


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