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May 13 2009, 7:33 PM
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Cosmix Fairy
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My thoughts as I watch:
No notes, it was too epic. It had the FEELING of a season finalie, no cliffhanger, the PERFECT ending for a mid season ending in any seiries Ive seen, ever, period.
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May 14 2009, 7:38 PM
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Bloomix Fairy
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I would say poor both. He is used to having her around and when she suddenly wants more, he is insecure and thinks he will loose her, so he acts like a jerk. He doesn't do that because he is mean, just because he is, well, insecure, and crazy afraid of loosing her. I'm not justifying him, he still is a jerk, but I'm saying he's is kinda complicated person, and his actions hurt him as well.
And I agree, if he wants to be happy with musa, he has to change, and, if I'm not mistaken, this "couple drama" is kinda around that.
This post has been edited by bubamara: May 14 2009, 7:40 PM
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May 14 2009, 8:27 PM
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Bloomix Fairy
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I agree that change of character is good. I was saying that riven was the one that "forced" musa to start to trust people. She had to start to trust him... (the whole charmix thing) What I am saying is that they are willing to make these changes for each other, and I'm not sure that they would make them for anyone else. I say that because of Riven (well, because of her wanting to be with him) Musa became more open. I say that because of her Riven started to be more friendly and better person. He does hold her back careerwise, but I'm not certain about the personalwise part. And I agree that he has to change for their relationship to work, but I just think that, if they manage to do that, its gonna be much better for both of them, then to settle with something mediocre. Now, in the real life this probably wouldnt work, simply because people dont change, no matter how much they want to. If someone gets with witches like riven did in s1, they will remain like that. But even in real life I say that people should try, at least a bit before they give up. And since this is cartoon I would like for them to work out their problems.
This post has been edited by bubamara: May 14 2009, 8:28 PM
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May 14 2009, 8:35 PM
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Bloomix Fairy
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Well, the problem with Riven is that he doesn't trust people. I can't see anyone like him in the real life changing into open and smiling person, no matter how much does he want. What I meant actually was people can't change just because they want to. They can if the conditions that surround them change, or if some people help them, but if you are depressed person, you can't just wake up and say, oh, I want to go out, be happy and catch butterflies all day.
He didn't force her. I said I think, not I'm sure. Except for the whole "you have to get used to people envy you" part. That I didnt like. He seems to be even more cynical then Riven, and I'm not sure that Musa needs that.
This post has been edited by bubamara: May 14 2009, 8:37 PM
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May 14 2009, 8:48 PM
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Bloomix Fairy
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well, thats where we dont agree. I dont think that Riven would find anyone who will be willing to support him while he tries to change, and if musa isn't reason enough to change that no one will be. As for her, I think she might be happy with Jason, but I think that would be settling with something mediocre. Like, she will be happy with her music, but that playful part of her, the way she acts with Riven would be gone. Again, I dont think its better for her to be with riven the way he is now, but if he opens a bit more, then it would be much better for her. (since she would have it all)
As for the loop part, dont know... They seem to make some progress. Not big one, but some. And she is really determined to end the "loop" this season. So, I hope they will work it out,
This post has been edited by bubamara: May 14 2009, 8:52 PM
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