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post Dec 10 2012, 7:19 AM
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Moving on to 2x23, and Avalon and Griz's exercise:

Unedited: They're fighting a monster. Griz reminds them they'll have to face Lord Darkar eventually. Bloom positions the Winx in front of the monster to wait for her signal, and then they get attacked from the back.

Edited: They're fighting the monster. Griz tells them that they need to use their Charmix. Bloom agrees. But then they just stand there and get attacked from the back first.

Later...

Unedited: Griz is commending Stella, and the rest of the group on how they performed in this exam, and Francis comes in and calls them to FG's room.

Edited: Griz is laying down parameters for the next round (twice as tough, 3 minute time limit), when Francis comes in.

I dunno... while it's good for them to keep training, it's not every day you see Griz actually saying something nice to them.

Over in the village, Jolly is giving a sick Amore a card reading:

Unedited: Jolly: "The cards say that you're never going to get better."

Edited: Jolly's readings now say that she will never fall in love.

And probably the most important moment in this episode that doesn't involve Bloom:

Unedited: Flora says "I love you" to Helia.

Edited: Flora says "I really like you" to Helia.

I got a reply saying it was an excellent change that made the F/H relationship a bit more realistic.

Plot twist, with a side of visual editing:

Unedited: Both the real and fake Avalons wear the same white outfit.

Edited: In FG's office, the real Avalon wears a purple outfit, and Stella (who'd just been with the fake) comments on him changing clothes quickly when he sees the real Avalon.

(Picture)

Also, this ep has two scenes where dub changes in previous episodes are seemingly ignored:
1. Flora doesn't want to tell Helia, but doesn't mention the "girls don't make the first move" rule (2x13 dub change), and
2. Tecna is among those in FG's office talking with FG about Avalon, yet there's no mention of the Sphere of Truth she shot at Fake!Avalon (2x09 dub change)


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post Dec 20 2012, 1:36 AM
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2x24, where Timmy is outside with the RF ship:

Unedited: Timmy is giving the ship a tune-up for this mission, so it's in tiptop shape.

Edited: Timmy is making adjustments to the ship so that its power doesn't drain in Shadowhaunt... and this ends up being the only time the issues from the mission from earlier in the season are addressed.

Unedited: The girls and pixies talking about going on the rescue mission is followed by Timmy's tune-up, and then a short scene of Darkar with Bloom.

Edited: These two scenes are cut. Timmy mentions the adjustments during the scene where the girls are at the ship.

I was expecting some sort of explanation for why Stella doesn't use her Charmix when Icy makes the Ice Crusher in the first place, rather than Flora. Instead, the only difference between the two versions dealing with this part is this, which makes Stella seem very reckless IMO:

Unedited:
Timmy: Well, we just have to hope that Sky and the others show up before we're completely buried under this snow.
Stella: No way! You can forget about it! It's time to put an end to all this freezing nonsense!
Timmy (pointing at vines): Stella, I'm not sure that's such a great idea...
Stella: Listen Timmy, maybe you like freezing your nose off, but the pixies and I have had it! And we're ready for a red-hot spring thaw.

Edited:
Timmy: We're close to coming up with a solution, Tecna and I just have to make a few more calcuations.
Stella: Forget it! No more stupid calculations! I'm gonna go out there and use my Charmix!
Timmy (pointing at vines): No Stella, we have a plan. Look, it's gonna work...
Stella: You can plan all you want, but I'm in a tubetop dress, and it's ridiculously cold in here, so I'm gonna go fix this right now!

During Brandon and Amentia's fight, Layla is shown drinking tea.

Unedited: (commenting on the fight) Oh my, that does look painful.

Edited: (commenting on the tea) Whoa, this is the best tea I've ever had.

One edit to note in 2x25:

Unedited: Saladin decides to send Codatorta, without giving any specific reason.

Edited: Saladin decides to send Codatorta, because Sal's too old for this.

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post Dec 20 2012, 5:16 AM
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Oh woah, I've actually read the Cut It Out website a looooong time ago. I always thought some of the edits were rather...odd, but some I guess I understood. Even if to us they seem extreme, there are parents out there who are very strict with what they let their kids watch, and one panty shot could cost a lot of more conservative viewers.

And then there was stuff like Musa's horrible slang, which I always found hilarious and rather endearing.


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post Dec 25 2012, 3:21 PM
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On to the season 2 finale. After Tecna deals with the monsters:

Unedited: After the Specs catch up with Tecna, both Tecna and Timmy say they're going to track the others. Helia says there's no need, and points at a paper crane, which flies off for the Specs to follow. (Picture)

Edited: Helia now comments on Tecna and Timmy saying the same thing at the same time (as if to prove his point, they both say "Huh?"), and the shot of the flying paper crane is cut out. (Timmy didn't originally say "Huh?" in the original; there is a visual edit in the dub)

Remember those jewels from 2x07? They come into play here:

Unedited: According to the Elders, FG told them to make back-ups of the Codex pieces, and they're the jewelry they're holding right now. Layla sees the puzzle and considers which of the other remaining fairies could solve the puzzle. "Maybe I should get Tecna and her computer, or maybe Musa, she's good at puzzles, or Flora..." As she's considering, Stella says, "Are these colors off or what?" and rearranges the pieces. ""It's just that the colors were clashing, so I moved them around a little bit and..." It turns out to be the solution to the puzzle: Athena: "It's a complex color spectrum analysis problem. No one's ever solved it so fast before." Stel: "See? Fashion sense is a vital skill after all! :)"

Edited: The jewels are referred to as ancient artifacts. Layla sees the puzzle, and Stella brings up a field trip to a museum, and there's something about a civilization that communicated with colors. She rearranges the pieces into the solution: "Stella is quite fluent in hue..." "Maybe Palladium should reconsider my grade :)"

The only part that makes 100% sense in either version is, yes, Stella loves fashion, so she should know what colors go with what. But when I first heard about this (for the edited version), it felt like a bit of dodgy writing to me, because the whole discussion about the field trip just came up out of nowhere. I had a whole discussion with one fan who said otherwise, and (once I found out about the original version and brought that up) preferred Stella applying knowledge rather than effing around.

Unedited: There is a brief flashback to last season's finale during the Realix scene.

Edited: There isn't. Also, this bit was cut out.

Last edits of the season:

Unedited: FG and Grif toast at the party, and the liquid in their glasses is pink (ish).

Edited: The liquid in their glasses is blue. (Picture)

Unedited: The last shot of the season is Bloom and Sky running in front of Timmy's camera as it goes off. This goes on with Blinky hovering in front of the camera, and then Mirta and Lucy being dragged in front of the camera.

Edited: We only get the Bloom and Sky photo.

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post Dec 26 2012, 5:01 PM
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I think the field trip knowledge is better than colours clashing. Even if we don't see the trip, we don't see every class either.


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post Dec 26 2012, 7:41 PM
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I actually really like the color-spectrum puzzle. It sounds like something Stella should know and feels less like it's pulled from a behind somewhere like the 'Field-trip' one.
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post Jan 7 2013, 11:18 PM
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Of course they have to end it with Bloom and Sky though...typical.
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post Jan 13 2013, 6:51 AM
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@P-Girl and @mightymarty2 regarding the color puzzle: P-Girl's "pulled from a behind" response is more or less what I thought about the 4K version of that particular plot point, and mightymarty2's comment is one of the reasons another fan gave in justifying it. This post has a bit of a discussion on that plot point.

Moving on to season 3, and previously uncharted territory for me, since I never made any comprehensive attempts at comparisons before now. Although the first episode is more notable for the lack of differences (it still has the Beta Academy mention, and I must not have been the only one who expected it to play a major role in the plot), two of the differences are still worth talking about:

Unedited: The villain is named Valtor.
Edited: The villain is named Baltor.

The reason this is notable is the mark the villain gives looks like the letter V. I haven't seen many comments about the mark not making sense, and I suspect it's because the 4K episode aired a while before the original version (don't ask how that happened, though).

Unedited: At the pizzeria, Stella tells Chimera: "That mud brown is a very good colour for you. I suggest you stick with it!"
Edited: Stella tells Chimera: "That pre-teen meets goth look is very appealing on you."

This poster made a comment about Stella not recognizing Chimera's GothLoli style, and I imagine that retaining the original line would not have raised such an issue.

Moving on to 3x02, with three changes this time around, starting at the Hall of the Universe at Stella's palace:

Unedited: Stella says this has always been her favorite part of the palace. Bloom launches into a flashback to the invasion of Domino.
Edited: Stella tells Bloom it can show her any moment in time anywhere in the realms, and Bloom has it show her the invasion of Sparks.

Party time!

Unedited: Flora comments on how Solaria went all out for the Princess Ball.
Edited: Flora mentions Helia's ship breaking down.

The 4K line draws a bit of attention to the fact that out of all the people who'd RSVP'd their invitations last week (a list that included Mirta I might add), only Sky and Brandon showed up.

Radius announces his upcoming marriage to Chimera's mom.

Unedited: Stella: "Why didn't you tell me about this before?" Radius: "Well, I wanted it to be a surprise..." (Stella walks off silently)
Edited: Stella: "Congratulations father." Radius: "You don't sound very happy, what's the matter?" Stella (after walking off): "I'm happy..."

While the 4K version does have potential for some drama, it's sort of undermined by the unedited version not being written that way.


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post Jan 20 2013, 7:00 AM
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Moving on to 3x03...

Unedited: The last minute or so of the previous episode (starting with Brandon and Sky running back to their ship) is repeated at the start.
Edited: 4K starts on Bloom running after Stella.

Bloom sees the guards going after Brandon and Sky.

Unedited: Tecna tells Bloom that the guys can handle them on their own.
Edited: Tecna makes a point that the rain has sapped all their Winx and the guys can handle it.

This creates a whole lot of problems in the tunnel, such as Tecna having power (albeit very minimal) while the others don't when they encounter the spiders, and deciding to make an air bubble to breathe underwater.

Unedited: While walking in the forest looking for Stella's tunnel, Musa asks Stella if they need a spell to see it.
Edited: Stella says "If Brandon saw me like this, as good as a guy he is, you can bet he'd be gone faster than a Solarian sunbeam." Flora: "That's not true. Brandon's not like that" Musa: "All guys are, Flo. It's just their nature."

Later while going through the tunnel, 4K Musa makes this throwaway comment about Stella getting stuck: "Narrow passageway, plus-sized fairy, not good." (Unedited: "It's Stella. She can't get through. We've got to help her. C'mon!") These two comments from Musa received a good deal of criticism.

Unedited: We have a scene on the Specialists' plane, with Bloom telling Sky she needs to contact Alfea and Stella hiding herself from Brandon.
Edited: We only see the plane coming to Alfea.

Stella asks Concorda if the Mirror of Truth will work:

Unedited: "Yes dear. But it will be a dangerous journey. The mirror is guarded by white giants and other sentries. They won't be easy to get past."
Edited: "We can't be sure of anything Stella. High magic objects only work when they are putting the universe back into balance."

On to 3x04, where the girls decide to try a spell on the gryphons attacking them:

Unedited: Flora points out they've never tried this spell before.
Edited: Flora says that WizGiz uses this spell to move to his summer cottage, not to move giant birds.

At the lake, Brandon tells Stella that he can see what she looks like now...

Unedited: He tells her that Flora's spell never worked.
Edited: Flora's spell wore off on the ship.

Back at school...

Unedited: There's a brief scene of Chatta talking with a random student.
Edited: This scene has been (understandably) edited out.

Unedited: Musa introduces herself to Galatea normally.
Edited: Musa makes beatbox noises while introducing herself to Galatea.

And a minor edit for the Nick dub, after Stella hears about Cassandra taking care of royal business on Solaria...

Unedited: "And my father just lets her? Cassandra must have bewitched him! If my mother hadn't given up the crown after the divorce, none of this would be happening right now!"
Edited by Nick: Stella no longer brings up her mom. "And my dad just rolled over and drooled? I don't think so. This can not be true. Cassandra must have cursed him. That is the only explanation for all of this."


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post Jan 25 2013, 3:52 PM
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Moving on to 3x05...

Unedited: We open with the situation on Andros, and Bloom and Layla talking about the invasion of Andros in the Alfea garden.
Edited: We skip those scenes and head straight to the girls' dorm.

The pixies get turned into the Winx.

Unedited: "Bloom" speaks with her normal voice.
Edited: She speaks with a pixie-like high-pitched voice.

(In the next episode, the Winx speak in the pixies' voices in both versions.)

4Kids tries to justify the appearance of a flashback to the destruction of Domino...

Unedited: Bloom tells Layla "We won't stand by either. We're gonna use all our power to help." This leads into the flashback.
Edited: Bloom tells Layla that every time they mention Baltor, she keeps getting flashbacks to the destruction of Sparks.

Immediately following the above, Icy is using a flame she is holding to light up a few cups in their hideout.

Unedited:
Icy: "They're here to save Andros."
Darcy: "Acting all tough and courageous."
Stormy: "Valtor is right. They're SO naive."
Icy: "They think they can interfere with Valtor's plans. I don't know whether to call them arrogant or stupid. It won't be long before they see that their spells are useless."

Edited:
Icy: "This new power Baltor gave me is cool!"
Darcy: "Baltor gave you a new power?"
Stormy: "We know she's his favorite but don't worry. She'll mess it up like she always does!"
Icy: "Spoken like a real witch. But true, although perhaps Baltor will be different. Nah, eventually he'll disappoint me. But in the meantime it could be fun. "

A good deal of criticism against this episode was levied against the whole thing about Icy getting a fire power and not using it against the Winx. That wasn't the only issue viewers had with the battle, though...

Unedited: After Icy gets shot out of the sky, the girls decide to play a trick on Darcy and Stormy. Musa goes in to attack Stormy. Darcy attacks Musa and Musa counters. We see Icy make her icepad. Layla sneaks up on them and shackles them together.
Edited: Icy gets shot out of the Sky, and Bloom says: "Whenever you face us, you lose" as 4K cuts straight to Icy making her icepad, then Layla sneaking up on Darcy and Stormy.

The issue here: Certain viewers thought Darcy should have been able to sense Layla sneaking up on her (like she did Bloom back in the second episode). The original version would not have had these issues.

Although Nick's version doesn't cut out the scene (or any other scene, in fact), there are still some differences in the dialog. Bloom: "When you mess with the Winx, you get burned!" icon_biggrin.gif


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post Feb 17 2013, 2:21 AM
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Back from a longer-than expected hiatus, we now move on to 3x06. When Tressa frees her mom from imprisonment, there's much more dialog than there originally was:

Unedited:
Mom: My dear Tressa, I was afraid I'd never see you again.
Tressa: Well, you can thank the fairies and Princess Layla. They risked their lives to come down here. They helped me. And all I've done in return is act like a coward.
Mom: (backs off)
Tressa: (hacks bars off)
Mom: That's my girl. (comes out to hug Tressa)
Tressa: (gives mom crown) This is yours mother. Now go. Get away from here.
Mom: (puts on crown)

Edited:
Mom: You came to rescue me honey. I'm so proud of you.
Tressa: Don't be. It's Layla and the fairies that you should be proud of. Me? I don't know how to be brave mom. But Bloom said that I should just go for it, that I should just try.
Mom: I think Bloom is right dear. (backs off) Start now. Be brave.
Tressa: (hacks bars off)
Mom: Well done Tressa. That's my girl. Thank you. (comes out to hug Tressa) I'm proud of you.
Tressa: (over a shot of Mom) Happy to be of service mom. (gives Mom crown) With you back in the throne, maybe we can defeat Baltor. (as Mom puts on crown) And this time I'll be at your side.

Meanwhile in the Alfea dorm, 4Kids has changed the text on the slip of paper on the floor from 1+1 to something more complex. (Picture.)

The Winx blast the cave roof while being chased by a Kraken. We get a Nick alteration:

Original and 4Kids: Flo: "Uh, Tecna, the cave collapsing, was that part of your plan?" Tec: "Well no, but I never said my plan was perfect."

Nick: Flo: "I like living dangerously, but this is pushing it!" Tec: "Well, let's keep pushing it! We're almost out!"

On to 3x07, and Stella's Enchantix one-liner:

Unedited: "Enchantix. That sounds cool!"
Edited:"Plus, the wings are FABULOUS! icon_smile.gif"
I dunno. Stella's 4K one liner sounds better.

On Eraklyon, Diaspro has ordered her help out of the room and has been left to herself.

Unedited: "Sky thinks that Bloom is prettier than me? How ridiculous."
Edited: "I wish there was a way to get rid of that stupid fairy Bloom!"

4Kids uses a different background after Stella talks about Bloom going to Sky's party. (Picture.)

The girls' princess lessons have put them behind schedule in clearing up the library.

Unedited: Stella has an idea. Tec: "Don't you think the last one was enough?" She suggests they should change the pixies into copies of themselves (which is how they got into this mess in the first place). Bloom: "You already did so much for me Stella. Right now we should all just work super hard. We are behind but if we do our best, I think we can finish in time without using tricks or magic. All we have to do is believe we can do it."
Edited: 4Kids snips out Stella explaining her idea, and most of Bloom's line. Stella: "I have another fabulous idea." Tec: "Perhaps we should just simply clean up the books?" Bloom: "Yeah, no more tricks. Let's just get to work." (Corresponding with "All we have to do is believe we can do it.")

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post Feb 28 2013, 3:12 PM
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Moving on to 3x08. At the beginning of the episode...
Unedited: Bloom has a nightmare in which the others show up to taunt her for not having anyone left from her home planet to save and thus earn her Enchantix. Layla shows up at the end.
Edited: Quite a bit of the nightmare is cut out, including the part Layla shows up. (This left a few viewers scratching their heads at her absence.)

When Sky's parents show up at the party:
Unedited: They're identified as King Erendor and Queen Samara.
Edited: We do NOT get their names, as they're only identified as the King and Queen of Eraklyon.
Since the random royal couple that appears before them are identified by name, this change seems puzzling.

Sky decides to shoot magic arrows at the Winx.
Unedited: Layla makes an awesome scream before transforming, and puts up a Enchanted Morphix wall.
Edited: Layla's awesome scream gets cut out, and her spell is now called a Rubber and Glue spell.

Stella gets her Enchantix.
Unedited: We have Bloom and Layla making comments on Stella getting her Enchantix.
Edited: We only get Bloom's comment.

At the end...
Unedited: Stella: "We both left something behind didn't we?"
Edited: Stella: "My father wanted to go back to Solaria and pretend to still be under Cassandra's spell. He thinks that's the best way to defeat her." (Stella is only actually shown speaking that last part, that's why the 4K line is much longer)
Similar to the Sphere of Truth, this edit will affect a later plot point.

3x09. While Bloom is in Gardenia, we have a musical montage.
Unedited: At one point, she looks in disgust at a couple kissing on the streets. (Picture)
Edited: She looks in disgust at graffiti saying Love Conquers All. (Picture)

Bloom's earth parents talk to her.

Unedited:
Vanessa: "But knowing why he did it might help you feel better. If he's the same Sky who saved you from Darkar's magic, then something very serious must have happened to explain why he changed so much. You never know honey. It might just be that HE'S the one that needs your help. In any case you have the right to know. Demand some answers. Never give up, Bloom, especially when your feelings are at stake. Sky should explain his actions. In fact, insist that he does."
Mike: "Well, I can't tell whether this Sky guy is a prince or a jerk, but I have half a mind to teach him a lesson for treating you like that!"

Edited:
Vanessa: "I don't know much about spells honey, but isn't it true that a person doesn't know what they're doing when they're under one? Isn't that what happened when Lord Darkar put you under a spell and Sky saved you? It may be time to put pride aside, and help your friend."
Mike: "Normally guys who act like that need to get the heave-ho. But in this case I think you and Sky have true love, and that's worth fighting for."

The Winx girls make their escape after breaking the spell on Sky.

Unedited: Diaspro says: "This isn't over! Sky will be mine!"
Edited: Diaspro does NOT say this.

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post Feb 28 2013, 7:12 PM
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Ooooh, I forgot that one. The 'We both left something behind' is a very powerful moment. And 4Kids messed it up.
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post Feb 28 2013, 7:20 PM
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I have to agree that is a much better line than 4kids


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post Mar 25 2013, 2:59 PM
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Moving on to 3x10... After the Winx girls transform:

Unedited: We get a shot of Mirta participating in the battle, followed by a shot of Stella and Layla, then Bloom putting up a shield.
Edited: We get Bloom's shield first, then the Stella and Layla shot, then Mirta fighting.

During the fighting:

Unedited: After Stella and Layla's attack knocks out a bunch of student witches, Stella and Layla notice the fighting in the forest:
S: "Layla, look. It must be Ms. Faragonda fighting in the forest."
(Layla flies off)
S: "Layla!"
L: "What?"
S: "Where are you going?"
L: "We have to do something. We can't let her face Valtor alone."
S: "We're need here. Ms. Faragonda is more than able to take care of herself!"
(Explosion from the forest)
Edited: It cuts from the result of Stella and Layla's attack to the explosion from the forest.

The Trix have Princess Galatea lead them up a staircase to Alfea's secret goodies.

Unedited: Darcy: "All the ancient secrets of Alfea will soon be ours, unless our little princess is leading us the wrong way. That'd be a royal mistake."
Edited: Darcy: "Remember freshman, you lead us to the wrong place, we'll freeze your fairy wings and pluck them right off!"

Notable because guess what happens to Galatea's wings later?

The girls search for Galatea...

Unedited: Bloom says she senses something strange before Musa senses it as well.
Edited: 4Kids cuts Bloom's sensing, and starts Musa's line about her sensing it a bit sooner.

Unedited: Musa picks up Galatea's message, and we have a shot of Musa missing her earphones.
Edited: That shot has been cut out, presumably to cover up the mistake.

After Musa gets her Enchantix, we have the first time the fairy dust has been edited out, as she puts out the library fire. Also...

Unedited: We have a short scene of Musa talking with Stella and Layla about joining the Enchantix club (even getting in a comment about her wings icon_smile.gif). Barbatea praises them about saving the library and Griz adds: "I too would like to thank you. Without your help, the Trix would have taken possesion of all our spells. Don't let it go to your heads, but I'm proud of you." Bloom: "We didn't do anything more than the other fairies. If we won today, it's because we all worked together."
Edited: Musa's bit is cut, so it goes straight from the portal above Alfea closing to Barbatea thanking the Winx. Also, Barbatea and Griz start talking about FG going missing sooner than in the unedited. Griz: "All of Alfea did very well today, but unfortunately we cannot celebrate, because our headmistress is still missing!" Bloom: "Last we saw Miss Faragonda, she and Valtor went off in that bubble, and were fighting in the woods."


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post Mar 26 2013, 9:26 AM
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I think I prefer the uneditted version as the lines seem more fitting. Though I do think the Trix threatening and scaring Galatea, is more the Trix's style.


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Moving on to 3x11. Again, 4K edits out an animation mistake:

Unedited: After Musa and Layla strike the monsters in the CT hallway, it cuts to a shot of the Winx girls laughing. Problem is, it shows Flora in her Enchantix outfit. (Picture)
Edited: It cuts from Musa/Layla's strike straight to Baltor looking at his crystal ball.

Darcy comments on Mirta:

Unedited: "She used to study here at Cloud Tower, before moving to Alfea. Weakling!"
Edited: "She claims to be a fairy who just happened to be born in a witch's body." (Baltor follows it up with "She looks like a weakling.")

The girls find Griffin in her cell:

Unedited: When Bloom tells Grif about FG's fight with Valtor, Grif replies: "I'm glad to hear that another member of the Company of Light is still standing." Bloom: "Ms. Griffin, so it's true, you were a member of the Company of Light."
Edited: 4Kids cuts out Grif confirming she was a member of the Company of Light, so it goes straight to Grif recommending them to seek out the vault monsters.


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post Apr 25 2013, 4:22 AM
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Surprisingly, I did like some of the edits in that last one. Mainly the whole stella and divorced parents plot. The edited version seems more realistic and Aisha/Layla is not as whiney in it.
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post May 28 2013, 1:36 AM
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Currently working on the comparison for 3x12, but to tide you over, Una di Noi has posted a video of a high schooler's presentation on 4Kids' edits to the show. There's also a follow-up post asking readers if they think Rai dub of Winx would have done well in the US.


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post Jun 4 2013, 7:42 AM
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Okay, now moving on to 3x12. After we have a name change for Flora's sister from Miele (Honey) to Rose, the girls meet the Sage of Linphea at the waterfall, who tells them about the Black Willow. The most important change involves about getting the water from the stream:

Unedited: They're specifically told to use a goblet to get the water from the stream.
Edited: They're told in more uncertain terms that they must get the water without touching it.

Darcy pollutes the stream, and Miele/Rose gets zapped. I imagine there are probably some people out there who prefer Flora's more dramatic line in the unedited as she casts the spell on the Trix...

Unedited: "Venus Gobbler!"
Edited: "That was my sister!"

After Flora rescues her sis, a major ordering change takes place here, and it fixes a plot hole rather than create one:

Unedited: We see a tear drip into the polluted stream, causing the stream to suddenly become clean again, and causing Flora to transform into Enchantix, before emerging from the clean stream. Flora uses her fairy dust to make the willow throw the Trix into the stream.
Edited: We see Flora transform into Enchantix and emerge from the still-polluted stream. We see Flora use her fairy dust (just the "drawing" part, without the actual drawing), and 4K puts in the clips that originally immediately precede and follow Flora's transformation to present it as if Flora's dust has purified the stream, before making the willow throw the Trix.

Comparison (left is original, right is 4K)

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