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Posted by: Another Morning Apr 17 2009, 6:12 AM

Alright, so I've found a few things recently that I think some people here would enjoy, but I decided against posting them because I know that we have some younger members here. So my idea is that maybe there could be a 16+ years old forum. Access would be restricted to members who are at or above the right age. I'm not sure how the mechanics of a forum like that work, or if it's even possible, but I've seen it done elsewhere.

This is, of course, nothing against our younger members. You guys know I love you <3 There's just some things that I don't want to post where younger people could see it, but I want to share with other people who I think would like it and are mature enough that I wouldn't feel guilty for posting it.

This wouldn't be like "LOL POST **** HEER" or anything like that. Just a place for more mature discussion for certain topics.

Depending on what people think, maybe it could be 13+ instead. And if it's not possible to make an actual forum, maybe it would be possible to start up a member team?

Anyway, it's just an idea I've been mulling over for a few days.

Posted by: Bloom girl Apr 17 2009, 8:07 AM

And what about members who are 13- ? Are they going to been deleted ?

Posted by: mightymarty2 Apr 17 2009, 8:24 AM

AM is not surgesting that

I see where you are are comming from but 3 issues:
one-people who don't disclose there age it is based on trust
two-attracts people who might post ****, i will remove it as will other mods
three-people who lie about there age, (i have seen it happen)

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 17 2009, 8:39 AM

I think a 13+ forum would be better, because it shows that it's a forum for an older crowd, but the younger teenage members on the forum will also have a chance to join the discussions.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 17 2009, 8:49 AM

I think it's a good idea, actually. I remember another forum where we added a 'P-rated' (P stood for pervert) forum, because some of us had things to share and discuss that wasn't suitable for minors. I went quite well. There never was any abuse, and it was a great deal of fun for the older members, especially on sharing some *Ahum* adult humor.

I think it's a matter of trust between the members. This forum was kinda small and on a 'Everyone knows everyone' basis, so there never were any problems with it. We just gave it a password and trusted all members not to give it to any minors. I don't know if this could be managed on Magixclub, since it's a larger forum with more younger members......

Posted by: wkw427 Apr 17 2009, 12:10 PM

This is a great idea

Posted by: Winx4eva! Apr 17 2009, 2:12 PM

(Erm...I hope I am not being stupid, again)

But isn't this a winx related forum? I don't think there is any need to post out stuff that younger members aren't allowed to view (I know AM said mature). I know I am 12, I have already viewed rather disturbing things. This forum shouldn't be like that. I know there are other topics which hold non-winx disscussions. Even they shouldn't contain things unrecommaned for younger members.

(As the board rules clearly state: Language is strictly PG-13, No cursing or swearing. And, already these rules have been broken as I have seen.)

Posted by: P-girl Apr 17 2009, 2:33 PM

Maybe having a forum where we can talk openly is a stop for that, to. Winx may be a kid's show, but some of us aren't. And altough I'm not someone who cusses up a storm, I do use some swear-words here and there in my way of speaking. It would be nice to have a place around here where I'm free to do that, without concerning myself about rules and minors.

Posted by: Winx4eva! Apr 17 2009, 2:37 PM

Maybe it could be possible, but I am not sure... I understand older members want that, since well...you are older.

Posted by: Zhanneel Apr 17 2009, 4:20 PM

Mmm...I guess I don't mind either way really. I mean, we've been doing pretty well already, in that when we have something "adult" related we put up warnings and tell people not to click this or that unless they are of a certain age. I've seen plenty of threads that have warnings of this or that for such material.

And I don't want to denounce the idea, but I can see it from W4E/Mish's side. There is the chance that others will feel alienated if such a forum is created. Technically, this site should remain open to all members since it is a Winx-themed site, and using the "Other" forum seems to help with placing topics for older viewers. Perhaps I'm not aware of how "adult" everyone wants to be. I don't know...it just doesn't seem right for this site.

However, if the a new forum is made that's okay, but I don't think passwords are required. I think that would further alienate other members of the site.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 17 2009, 8:19 PM

[noguests]My opinion is: I dont mind if something like that is made, but it is futile to try to restrict younger users from viewing. If someone ignores an age warning, then chances are they would join the group claiming to be older or possibly make a new account. I also think it is unfair to restrict younger viewers, since its their choice whether they choose to view that kinda stuff, so as long as there's proper warning, I dont think it should be a problem.

And I dont know if this is true, but sometimes it seems like when you try hard to restrict people, they break the rule on purpose to either be rebellious, or because they're curious. And example is if you have a secret and pretend its such a big deal, everyone will want to know what it is. But if you're just like whatever then people wont care as much cause they wont think its important.

Conclusion: There should be a sub-forum under the 'Other' where the material could go. And each should have (either in the sub heading, or at the beginning of the first post) a warning stating which age they think is too young/how (without being too descriptive) adulty the topic's topic is. Another option is creating a member team, but not rejecting anybody. And I think the warnings should still be in effect even in team topics cause there are probably some (like me) who are on the borderline and will want to join and check each topic before participating to see if they think its okay for them to view.
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Posted by: W.I.N.X Apr 18 2009, 2:09 PM

QUOTE (humbu111 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:19 AM)

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 18 2009, 8:46 PM

[noguests]Yeah, if the topic maker puts a proper warning, than I dont think they should be held responsible if a kid ignores the warning and sees something they didnt want to. [/noguests]

Posted by: Another Morning Apr 20 2009, 2:36 AM

Yeah, the main problem with anything age-based is that you just have to trust that people are being honest when they say how old they are, which I know isn't always the case :/

Posted by: Bloom girl Apr 21 2009, 7:26 PM

It´s a good idea, but I am 12 years old. Also many other members are under 13 years old...

Posted by: Administrator Apr 25 2009, 6:04 AM

Three problems:

• What if they didn't add my date of birth to their profile?
• What if they lie about their age?
• What if they ARE above 13+ but don't wish to tell anyone? (there is a way to add your date of birth WITHOUT the year, possibly a bug in the forum software, I'll tell you if you wanted to)

• Member Teams
• On the topic itself, put a BIG warning about it.

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 25 2009, 1:09 PM

I think we should just make a topic/forum with a big warning on it.

That way, it doesn't stop younger viewers from reading it, if they think they're mature enough, but if people are lying about their age, and see something they're not meant to, it's nobody's fault, because we warned them.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 25 2009, 11:01 PM

[noguests]I agree with Jahnavi. [/noguests]

Posted by: Bloom girl Apr 26 2009, 10:04 AM

I agree with Administrator

Posted by: SuperChick Apr 26 2009, 3:22 PM

QUOTE (Another Morning @ Apr 16 2009, 11:12 PM)

Posted by: P-girl Apr 26 2009, 3:24 PM

Did she mention your name specifically? No.

Did she call anyone immature? No.

So why the shouting? Some of us just like to discuss things that are inaprorpiate for a certain age-group. You'd rather have us discuss it in a furom where younger kids could see it?

Posted by: SuperChick Apr 26 2009, 3:27 PM

QUOTE (humbu111 @ Apr 17 2009, 01:19 PM)

Posted by: P-girl Apr 26 2009, 3:29 PM

Did you even listen to me?

Posted by: WinxBloom_belivix Apr 26 2009, 4:07 PM

Super Chick lets not fight now lets be friends.....

I mean aren't you two friends.....i am sooo peacefull

Posted by: P-girl Apr 26 2009, 4:13 PM

We respect each other. And I'm pretty peacefull most of the time. (Altough I can blow my top from time to time.)

Oh, and please try to refrain from double-posting.

Posted by: WinxBloom_belivix Apr 26 2009, 4:14 PM

okay

Posted by: P-girl Apr 26 2009, 4:15 PM

Good.

Posted by: Fortress Guy Apr 27 2009, 4:36 AM

A lot of people are making some good points.

I think we as adults can keep our MC chat and posts PG-13 and still get most of the meaning across. If someone wants to talk about more serious stuff cannot they simultaneously open up a private chat window in another service? Or email or facebook?

It is a little clunky and slightly troublesome, but gets the job done.

Our MC community is amazingly diverse, and as much as I enjoy serious topics, sometimes the youngsters may need to reach out to us for some sage advice. I think it would be good for us to be there for them.

Posted by: Another Morning Apr 27 2009, 10:44 PM

I didn't mean to offend anybody, and I'm not saying that I think all younger people are immature and I don't want to talk to them. And I wasn't trying to present this as a way to exclude or ignore people. I really tried to make that clear in my opening post, so I'm sorry if anybody got the wrong idea about what I was proposing.

It seems that the main views against the idea are that people would lie about their age and that there really isn't a lot of subject mater above a pg-13 rating that would have a place on this site, anyway, which are both valid points. Like I said, as far as age goes, there isn't really any way that we could be totally sure, we'd just have to trust that members would tell the truth.

Content-wise, like I said, it wouldn't be a place to post the kind of things that aren't really appropriate for anyone. Basically, I was looking at it from a parental sort of view. A lot of parents like to check up on what their kids are doing online. But the parents of, say, a 15-year-old would have a higher tolerance level than the parents of, say, somebody who is 10 or 11. Some parent might not even let their kids join or keep coming to the forum, depending on what they see and what they deem appropriate. So like I said, it would be more a place for things that are more "mature" and might cause objection in the case of a younger member (or their parent or guardian)

And in case anybody was confused, I'm not saying we should make the whole board have an age limit, or totally segregate the age groups so that only younger members could post here and the older members could only post there. There would still be all of the communication and ways for everybody to talk to each other that there are now. This would be just an added area for people of an older age to communicate things that might get younger people in trouble, but that they know they themselves are alright to discuss.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 27 2009, 10:51 PM

[noguests]Yes, think additional people. You're not losing out on anything, the forum will still be exactly the same but with a new subforum or member team added. And I agree with what AM said about parent stuffs.[/noguests]

Posted by: florapower Apr 29 2009, 3:28 PM

I suggest you guys do not put terms that children can search, if not I will have to close this topic.
I will talk to the other people later and see what they think about a 16+ forum, but this is an idea...why not make a separate forum all together? Of course I don't have the money for it, but I'm sure if you really guys wanted it, you could find a way.

Posted by: Another Morning Apr 29 2009, 11:20 PM

What terms were we using that we need to stop? I'm not trying to argue, I'm just making sure so I don't keep using them and get the topic closed on accident.

Posted by: melgirl1778 May 7 2009, 9:38 PM

what about a member team? that way we could have a forum that only members can access, and the leader can controll the members to make sure they are old enough or mature enough...

I would love an older area where i can talk to some of the older members. again, i dont want to dis respect the younger members, but sometime i want to say something that i just cant because i have to be careful.

Posted by: Winx4eva! May 10 2009, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (melgirl1778 @ May 7 2009, 11:38 PM)

Posted by: melgirl1778 May 10 2009, 9:52 PM

we should probably get permission from a admin though.

Posted by: Bloom girl May 23 2009, 5:56 PM

Yep , a member team would be the best.

Posted by: bloom_daphne Jun 10 2009, 1:40 PM

The concept of a 16+ forum sounds interesting but like Admin had mentioned earlier, it also poses many problems. In my opinion, I think a Member Team for 16+ members is ideal however I think only well established members on the forums be allowed access. In that way we can trust that they wouldn't do anything excessively wrong. (They wouldn't overstep the boundaries etc).

But once more, I think the whole concept of this forum is a place for winx fans to chat but I can totally understand what you're talking about, like the use of our slang and whatnot, I tend to use slang that's mild, but it'd probably be inappropriate for younger members. We can discuss this topic with the Honor Members and Moderators to seek their opinions in order to make an informed decision. Once more I think a member team is the best way to go, because we wouldn't want to make a forum section dedicated to 16+ members and eventually have the two age groups separated because the older members would be more inclined to chat where they could use certain "terms" and slang.

BTW, for reference, I'm 14

Posted by: Jahnavi Jun 10 2009, 2:48 PM

*Confuzzled* Aren't you 15, Daph?

Posted by: bloom_daphne Jun 21 2009, 12:11 PM

OMG. xD I can't believe I forgot I'm 15.

Posted by: Administrator Jun 22 2009, 1:04 PM

Team is created:
http://magixclub.com/forums/index.php?autocom=teams&code=teammem&tid=38