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Posted by: humbu111 Apr 19 2010, 10:12 PM

I think it would be pretty cool to be able to give individual posts a thumbs up or a thumbs down like how you can for youtube. Would that be possible? Like alot of times I've noticed people agree with a certain post, so they make a new post saying they agree with it (I do that too sometimes lol) which is kinda a waste of space in my opinion. But this way you can just thumbs up it to show your agreement/support or disapproval. What do you guys think?

Posted by: Princess-Mariah Apr 19 2010, 10:20 PM

yeah i think so

Posted by: wkw427 Apr 20 2010, 12:05 AM

So, take a feature that Google messed up and put it on the forums?
No.. If you want to spear censored all over this forum, change the thread/user ratings to 'like or dislike'

Like the thread rating, it would never be used.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 20 2010, 1:08 AM

Uhmm... what ?? =S

And actually most topics do have a rating. Plus its not the same thing, a topic is too broad alot of the time to give a rating, there might be some parts of it you like and some you dont. A post is obviously much shorter so its way easier to decide if you like or dislike it. Also its not like everyone's gonna like or dislike every post, I'm assuming most posts would be neutral to most people. It would mostly be for posts that someone particularly agrees/likes or disagrees with.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 20 2010, 5:23 AM

I'm not too big of a fan. Because, just like in youtube, it can be used to 'Thumb down' topics, just because you happen to not like the one posting. Yeah.... not something I want happening here.

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 20 2010, 5:47 AM

Yeah, having a Thumbs Down feature doesn't sound that appealing to me. I mean, at least with a post you can explain why you don't like/agree with something, and it seems more polite, imo, to do that, than to just offhandedly say you dislike something.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 20 2010, 6:49 AM

Yeah, and if someone has a problem with my opinions or viewpoints, I'd rather have them say so in my face (Or with PM, if they really don't want to make it public) then with anonymous voting.

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 20 2010, 6:57 AM

Ooh, I forgot that it would anonymous. Then I *really* stand by my first post. I can take critique, disapproval, disagreement, etc., but I'd like to know who is against my post and why.

Posted by: mightymarty2 Apr 20 2010, 7:10 AM

I am not sure about it, it doesn't promote as much discussion and is open to abuse. However it could be useful when trying to find good information on winx. On youtube example its used to rate videos so people can choose a good video rather than a bad one so is more helpful.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 20 2010, 7:15 AM

How can a topic discussing opinions be good or bad? Also, doesn't youtube work with stars? Y'know, that system we already have?

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 20 2010, 8:00 AM

Ytube's recently added like/thumbs up and dislike/thumbs down features~ {That's one thing I appreciate about Fbook. They only introduced a like button, not a dislike one.}

Posted by: W.I.N.X Apr 20 2010, 8:20 AM

I agree that I think peole should actually clarify why they like the post or not, but perhaps we could incorporate a rule, or really more of a what-you-should-do-or-be-frowned-upon thing. Another forum I visit has a no two word post rule because they're pretty pointless. We should probably have something like that here. Yes, it may be difficult for particularly young memers(we've had a couple of 8-yeard-olds here haven't we?), but, even though it sounds unfair, they should try another forum before they can come to one with actual discussion.

Posted by: mightymarty2 Apr 20 2010, 9:34 AM

what about what song are listening too nickelback someday (2 words)

Posted by: Administrator Apr 20 2010, 10:33 AM

Unfortunately (in my own opinion as a forum admin), this shouldn't be implemented and/or enabled (at least for now).

First of all, the server that hosts this forum is getting pretty bogged down. The forum script itself is already CPU intensive and adding support for thumbs up/down (or Like) (or reputation) requires the forum to make a few more queries. Also, we changed hosts like 4 or 5 times and we seriously wish that we do not have to migrate again because it's really cumbersome to prepare everything and we have to wait for the DNS servers to sync and the downtime and disabling attachments and whatsoever.

Second, like some members said, it's a little too opaque, you don't really know who's actually disagreeing with you and you might never know who is behind that -1 rating. Unlike a blog, this is a forum, you can reply to the poster if you disagree with the poster's opinion. (Unlike a blog, which is rather difficult to reply to the original poster)


Of course, that is my two cents and you can always reply if you disagree with my statements.

Posted by: wkw427 Apr 20 2010, 12:03 PM

On another forum I go to, they had a "rep" system. you could give people rep, or remove it based on how many rep you had to begin with.
It was all anonymous, but people signed their rep messages and people started to hate eachother.

Whereas if there were reputation that allowed comments, was public, but you could only give rep instead of take it away, it would be good.

But I still think it is a bad idea anyhow

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 20 2010, 1:28 PM

QUOTE
It was all anonymous, but people signed their rep messages and people started to hate each other.

Exactly why I don't want this whole like/dislike feature. That's the kind of thing I'm afraid of~

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 20 2010, 10:51 PM

I dunno, if the majority of the members dont want to then I guess there's no point in having a feature like that. But I dont think many people are gonna hate, I was thinking of it more as a positive thing in which you show your support. For example in like a discussion topic about Winx if someone makes a really good point that you agree with, you could like their post. But thats just my opinion, like I said if yall dont want it there's not much point.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 5:21 AM

If someone makes a good point, you can say so in a post. We even have a thumbs up smiley. (And a thumbs down one, if someone really wants to.)

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 12:31 PM

Lol that goes back to my first post here, that making a whole new post just to say you agree or disagree is a waste and can be annoying to anyone checking new posts. But whatever, I'm not gonna and obviously cant impose this on everyone lol.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 2:30 PM

Well, it would be a good incentive to get more eloquent in bringing your opinions. Stating arguments and reasons for your like/dislike or something.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 3:48 PM

But if you agree/disagree with what was already said, there's no point in saying the same thing again in a new post in your own words.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 3:49 PM

Why not? There's always things to discuss. Most people have very different reasons for an opinion that is, at first glance, the same.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:15 PM

Cause it would be redundant.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 4:17 PM

How can having discussions with everyone giving their reasons, which can wildly deviate from each other, be redundant?

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:21 PM

If they dont wildly deviate from each other. Hence I said, if you agree/disagree with a post and have nothing to add, you could like/dislike it instead of making a new redundant post.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 4:27 PM

Meh.... I still rather have a post. Like I said, it would teach member to be more eloquent and better in structuring their posts.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:30 PM

Well along with posting people could also like/dislike what they're replying to. That way in like a discussion topic it would be almost like a poll to see how many people agree or disagree with a statement.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 4:35 PM

Something of which I personally am not too big a fan off. Sure, it gives a good view of what someone likes, but the most interesting things (Why?) will stay away.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:38 PM

Not of what someone likes, but of what the forum as a community agrees/disagrees with. Sorry I didnt get the last part of what you said.

Posted by: Jahnavi Apr 21 2010, 4:40 PM

P-girl meant the most interesting part of agreeing/disagreeing is the reason, and you'll lose that with this kind of system. I think.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 4:40 PM

With a poll or a agree/disagree button, it becomes to easy to just leave it at that. You're seeing an opinion you like and just give it a thumbs-up, not mingling in the conversation and perhaps give it a boost or some new insight.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:43 PM

But I'm not saying for people not to be able to post replies anymore, I'm saying for this to be an additional thing. If people choose not to reply with the option of liking/disliking a post instead, thats their choice. But not giving them the option so that they are forced to reply with a post even if they'd rather like/dislike it doesnt sound like a good reason to me.

Posted by: P-girl Apr 21 2010, 4:44 PM

It isn't about the ability to, it's about the fact that it will leave people thinking 'Oh well, I gave my opinion with the push of a button, no need to post anything more'. And that kind of attitude can kill a topic.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 4:53 PM

But its not like they're being compelled to only like/dislike it, if they have something to add and want to add it, they will. Without giving them the alternative to like/dislike a post, their only option is to reply which is basically saying 'if you want to give your opinion, you have to reply with a post'. Forcing someone to post isnt the way to keep a topic alive either, especially if the posts are repetitive.

Posted by: terriordx32 Apr 21 2010, 5:05 PM

Honestly i like this whole idea.

Not everybody needs to say "Yes, I agree" for every single post they agree on. The like button would be cool because if you DONT want to explain why you like it, or you feel that they basically said the Same thing you were going to say.

I seen several posts on here where somebody makes a statement and everybody says "I agree." That would be a great reason to bring the like button in, so instead of having several posters posting the same thing without giving their opinion they can just like the topic and Just because somebody likes something doesnt mean they NEED to explaing why they like it.

I can see where the "dislike" button would cause problems because some will feel attacked. and would wonder why.

Posted by: humbu111 Apr 21 2010, 10:46 PM

Yeah what Terri says makes sense. So I guess if the dislike button is too negative, we could just have a like button like they do on facebook. I dont know about the technical details Admin posted about so if its not possible cause of those thats fine. But I definately think it would improve the forum and make it more user friendly.