Does the topic about weither Mirta is a witch or a fairy ever get addressed in future episodes? In the one episode they showed her as a fairy and it was really confuseing
I don't think it's that confusing, the way I look at it.
Witches and Fairies are, in fact, the same; girls with magical powers.
I think it goes like this: if a girl is born with magical powers, she can choose to be a witch or a fairy, kind of like a profession
But just like so many times, people can make the wrong decisions, or are pressured by peers and parents. I think that's the deal with Mirta, she first became a witch, but it obviously wasn't to her liking, and after she met the Alfea fairies, she decided; 'I want that! I want to protect, I want the wings and the sparkles! I want to be a fairy!'.
That's how I look at it.
I Read it from Somewhere in Wikipedia ( Got deleted, dunno why)
As long as it is a Magical being, they can be either Fairy or Witches
To Prove that
It is said in one of the Episode ( Not sure it was in 4Kids )
Ms. Griffin coundnt Beat Ms. Faragonda in Enchantix Form Cause it was too powerful
And if you notice on Winxclub.Com site, Ms. Faragonda was once a Witches
good points...I hope that they show more of mirta in upcoming episodes
I don't like the lack of clarity surrounding this subject. Though it's true that the Italian website says Miss Faragonda was once a witch, it doesn't say that she is now a fairy or that she is no longer a witch, nor does she ever use a fairy form. In fact, she flies (not levitates) without the use of wings, indicating to me that she's a witch.
It Kind of annoys me that you sould just change like that but I'm happy for mirta
yeah idk. but in the rai due version did they say faragonda got her enchatnix too? so that makes both versions messed up..
I think it's like, your expected to be a witch or fairy given your ancstery. Witches powers are drawn from dark and fariy powers are drawn from light (their winx).
In 'Shadows in Bloom' when she steals Alfea's part of the codex, Teacna says "Her power is not even being drawn from her winx, but some thing much darker."*
So the diffrence is where you draw you powers from.
* 4kids
I have a picture of Mirta in an enchantix outfit.
Really? I want to see that. I only have her in her fairy outfit.
Enchantix? where?
My guess would be that it is addressed in the Rai version but because of their stupid edits, 4Kids cut it out. I'd ask an Italian member for the full story.
no i don't think it was. I know blossom from winxdreams made a fan art of what she thought mirta would look like in her enchantix.
Not to mention there are some photoshopped 'Mirta Enchantix' floating around, with her head, pasted on some enchantix body, which is obviosly fake.
yeah any image is fake unless someone is claiming that her fairy outfit is enchantix but that doesn't even look enchantix, it has no big wings.
Mirta wouldn't get an Enchantix. They don't focus on her character nearly enough.
Did Mirta even get her charmix yet?
who knows, she probably would get it they just wouldn't show it she would just pop up with it.
I don't even think she got her enchantix yet. She is still a freshman I think since she just became a fairy.
No, I believe she's the same age as the other Winx girls. Becoming a fair doesn't automatically demote her to freshman.
True. She's at least a sophmore, if not a junior, but if she doesn't even have her Charmix yet (which I don't think she does), it doesn't seem very plausible that she would be able to get her Enchantix.
yeah she is just going to be less on track than the others in her class.
Of course, who's to say all the others girls got their Charmix and Enchantix in the second and third years, respectively? It's entirely possible that they...didn't. As Miss Faragonda said, they would just remain exactly as they were before.
I figure that it's just learning the other side's magic. Kinda like if we learn another country's language and culture. If we live in another country for so long we end up slipping into their traditions, even occasionally picking up their accent, yet we can still revert back to our homeland's culture and language when we want to.
Basically, Mirta's just getting the best of both worlds (although she's probably slacking on her witch training...)
Maybe she started late though. I thinks she must of gave up being a witch.
I want some actual explanation for that whole suddenly-fairy thinger...
I do too but it looks like we won't get it.
I'm sure we won't. I bet her fairy transformation was just eye candy in general; I love that she's got it, but I hate that it comes out of nowhere and also goes nowhere.
I think they def should give her some more air time, at least enough so everything is made clear...you think they would show her a bit more just because shes supposed to be good friends with the girls
Didn't she just pop up out of no where into Alfea. I went to wikepedia and it has all these info about her like her roommate.
well in season 2 she is shown in the rai due version for layla dance dancing with layla and francine (that is laylas roomate I think) and in laylas room when she was practicing.
Really? They don't show that in 4kids I think.
Hmm...that is true...it could be in your blood though that determines if you are a witch or fairy.
I wonder if they will show Mirta again in her fairy outfit even though they hardly show her.
I bet the producers didn't even consider the implications of showing Mirta as a fairy. She was at Alfea, therefore she wore a fairy outfit and had fairy wings. Case closed.
P.S., Purityangel, could you shrink your sig down to a standard size, please?
She is like a side character. The teachers are showed even more than her.
there are books and comics out that have side stories and stuff, I wonder if its addressed in one of them
Maybe it is. In comics, it has more information than the show sometimes.
it probably is. unfortunately the usa comics were cancelled and I have no way of getting any other ones (i wouldn't understand italian ones anyways) since on ebay i don't have paypal so I can only use money orders...
I guess we'll never know why she ended up in Alfea all of a sudden unless they make a episode about her she got there.
Which they won't. Anyone know why the comics were cancelled in the US?
Maybe no one was buying since they dont sell anywhere here where I live
I don't know, I have always wondered why they were canceled.
Maybe they thought it wasn't worth it to translate and print it out. I don't know for sure.
I miss it, I am so jealous that italy, france, and a ton of other countries have so many magazines with cool things that come with it!
Yea, that is probably because they made the cartoons.
Cool! I didn't know such a site existed.
Thanks for the link but it looks like it only goes to malaysia and singapore. oh well, I might go on ebay or something because I want a new winx magazine to read... I wish that site would have been to america! That's a cool site though!
I live in singapore but I don't buy the magazines now.I used to but after a few months,I think it is issue 8 and 9,the illustration start to get really weird.bloom kinda look fat.
they changed it back now,although I still did not buy it as the storyline is a little random,meaning that the story is not continued.and there is no suspense to it.
even in the 4kids version when stella and layla were saving miss griffin , she said that i couldnt beat faragonda when she got her enchantix so i hav a thought that maybe maybe when u become a realy powerful fairy and get your enchantix and everything u dont hav to transform bcoz miss faragonda is definitly a fairy rite now and she never transforms when she wants to use her powers. and we know that she does hav an enchantix
so wat do u guys think?
actually they had some kind of talk like that, mirta said that she was going to stay at alfea as an exchange student and lucy just said something like "why would anyone wanna be a fairy" or something like that.
Yeah I think the talk was somewhere at the very end of season one
yeah i remember seeing her as a fairy in season 3 and i just thought that you could like chose depends on like your mind like the witches they have different taste and mind so they decided to become witches like ms.griffen and ms.faraganda used to be in the same school so that means they once was in the same path i think it was being witches but then ms.faraganda thought differenty i guess ; i could be wrong
Well Since Mirta was once a witch, it seems that you have the option to be either a fairy or a witch. No matter what your bound to actually be.
Acutually Mirta Is a Fairy in a witches body
I think she always was meant to be a fairy, but because of her friendship with Lucy, went to Cloud Tower and trained as a Witch.
I'm pretty sure you do have a choice, most of the time if your brought up with a mother as a witch you will grow up in the teachings of a witch and you will therefore be a witch. Same thing with a fairy but I believe you always have a choice on what path your choosing, it just might be very hard to change, especially at Mirta's age being a teenager already (seeing as most normal witches and fairy's have already discovered and worked out how to use their powers)
Well in the 1st season she was witchling at cloud tower but then she got shifted to Alfea in the second season & her fairy form was released in episode 11 season 3.
Another thing is that one of the versions pronounce her name ~Mirr-tah~ and the other one pronounces ~Mer-da~
I know that, but in one of the versions (Rai / 4kidstv) Lucy calls her mer-da
sounds like another Layla, Aisha moment
its probably just the characters voice actor, the way they pronounce things or their accent.
Oh ya! Off topic for one sec. Below are the last names of the girls:
Domino, Bloom
Solaria, Stella
Linphea, Flora
Melody ,Musa
Zenith, Tecna
Andros, Layla (all made up)
are you sure as that sounds like where they come from
those are the planets or galaxies or whatever they are called that they come from.
xD I was at Wal-Mart one day, back in like, 2005. I picked up a book. It stated Bloom's last name as Jones. So in the 4kids dub her last name is Jones, technically.
Yep, and those last names are just the realms they're from.
Maybe they should use 'em as cover names on earth, maybe they don't really [the ones from Magix] have last names!
{I heard that for like 1 episode in some version or another, they pronounced Mirta like 'Marr-tah.' Confirmation?}
I never heard of it
me neither
I hate Mira she is acting like a baby...
No offense Mirta fans..
I agree with musa! She should never of been a witch in the first place!
...Maybe her parents made her be a witch?
I read a really good fanfiction about that several months ago...
yeah I agree WinxFairyAlianne if she was going to be a fairy then she souldn't have been a witch I mean she's way to nice to be a witch
But doesn't that defeat the whole concept of the idea not all witches are bad in the series? I was always under the impression the two schools were meant to have a "loyal adversary" stance towards each other, where the respect each other and foster the other's growth by being their foil.
Honestly, I can say in my opinion that the series really fumbled with this one. It's the same with Harry Potter, with how maybe a handful of exceptions at all, Slytherin House as one step away from being all Death Eaters... which is pretty disturbing when it was implied in Book IV that Salazar and Godrick were best friends.
yeah, I always thought witches and fairies in the series weren't exactly enemies. I mean they do dislike each other but they do respect the schools, they both have magic powers and the witches don't like being ruled over by evil guys like Lord Darkar or Baltor the same as fairies don't like it.
on youtube i saw a video of Mirta going enchantix, but it was a fake, definitly.
WeLL JONES WAS HER EARTH name: Bloom Mike Jones. And I also agree with Katja
really??????? : :
That's what is stated in one of the chapter books released by 4kids TV {read it at Borders yesterday...xD}, that her last name was Jones.
So, in 4kids, her last name is Jones. In Italian, who knows?
I don't think they gave the girls (or any of the characters, for that matter) last names in the Italian version.
Probably not Jones, if she actually has one. Doesn't sound Italian.
That was probably just something to make Bloom's Earth family more realistic having a last name. Jones isn't even creative though, its very common.
Do any of them have Surnames in any versions?
I'm not sure, just Bloom's that is mentioned in some books or something, I'm not sure where that even came from though.
Never heard them mention any of their Surnames... lol don't even think they exist for them!
Mirtha was an witch and is an fairy
in a book i read, Bloom's last name was Peters (another common one)
but thats her adopted parents last name, so i dont think it should really count as her last name
Yeah I don't think it counts, cause they're not her birht parents.
I also heard it was Peters!
But it just doesn't make any sense to me if the original producers decided on "Peters" as her last name. It's English & German; most definitely not Italian...
I can see 4kids writing that, but if that's the case than it's not official to me..
Anyway, on topic, I think Mirta doesn't harbor enough dark/negative feeling to make a good witch. I guess in that universe it's just about the kind of nature the person is...
I think Mirta is a witch that became a fairy
She is, we already no that, no offence. And @Hirondelle, I dunno, it was a short chapter book on like the first one or two episodes, I cant really remember anything else.
Oh okay then, I was just wondering if 4kids had a hand in writing it or not.
Sorry, I'm not sure...
4Kids, definately. In Rai, it's very clearly made that girls with magical powers can CHOOSE between Witch and Fairy, like an education. (And, just like an Education, your parents and peers can pressure you into it, and just like Education you can make mistakes, so the 'She didn't belong in Cloud Tower because she didn't like it there', is kinda a lame excuse to prove the contrary.)
i thought she also left to get taught different things and as she did not fit in as she was too nice and kind
Yes, but still, it was a choice, that was my point. In the Winx world, you aren't born a witch or fairy. You're born with magical powers, and you can choose what to become.
i missed that bit
*Sigh* I'm talking about Mirta's choice. She CHOOSE to become a fairy over a witch. No 'She's a fairy in a Witch's body'-nonsense like in 4Kids, she's a girl with Magical powers, who CHOOSES to become a Fairy instead of a Witch.
I get that, I'm just asking if they say that after you have made your desicion, how do you "become" a witch or fairy?
You simply set your mind to it. It's not as if Witches can't transform *Points at the Trix and their Regular/Battle outfits* I keep giving the 'Education' comparison, because it's that easy.
Okay (I never knew the witches could transform, its not in 4kids)
It's implied in the comics. And seriously, if they use it in a mall, how hard can it be?
wait if you can choose between being a fairy or a witch couldn't you be both too i mean that would be cool
I'm glad Mirta became a fairy, i used to always think and hope she would become the 7th Winx