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Posted by: fluidbender Aug 16 2009, 6:38 AM

Ok, here's something I realized. I know that Faragonda said that Bloom was the exception when it came to fairies and whatnot; however, Episode 13 of Season 3 - Point of No Return - Tecna earned her Enchantix on Tides - not by saving someone from her planet; of course, we don't know much about her planet or anything except I'm sure it's a technolicaly sound place I'm sure. Because on the 2nd or 3rd episode, Faragonda said they could only get their Enchantix by saving someone from THEIR planet right? So why was Tecna an exception on this? Bloom's case you can understand, but Tecna's planet still exists and whatnot, so...

Posted by: SuperChick Aug 16 2009, 6:40 AM

yea i always wondered that maybe if the omega gate was opened tides would be destroyed and maybe also other planets

Posted by: Jahnavi Aug 16 2009, 6:42 AM

Maybe it's left for the viewers to assume that by saving the population of an entire planet, Tecna sacrificed enough to earn her Enchantix...? That's what I always thought...

Posted by: Tiny Dragon Aug 16 2009, 6:54 AM

I think what the writers were going off of was that Tecna made the ultimate sacrifice when she closed the Omega gate. I always thought that sacrificing yourself was a greater deed then saving someone from your own planet. I know it doesn’t play into the rules of saving someone from your own planet but Bloom has shown that that isn’t always the case. There always seem to be exceptions to magic just like in the English language.

Posted by: fluidbender Aug 16 2009, 7:14 AM

No, it would've just destroyed Tides because of the opposite forces from the planet and dimension.

Posted by: fluidbender Aug 16 2009, 7:20 AM

Hmm....perhaps I missed that, but I got the idea from Faragonda that if you made a sacrifice in trying to save someone from your planet that would get you your Enchantix; perhaps Faragonda should've reviewed the rules for Enchantix herself maybe ^^;;; I'm sure probably someone else may have done that same thing...hmm....

Posted by: SuperChick Aug 16 2009, 7:21 AM

yea as tiny dragon said maybe it was the "ultiment"sacrafice
P.S tecna had the est sacrafice

Posted by: fullmoon Aug 16 2009, 7:37 AM

I think Tecna is just another exception because her sacrifice was the biggest. Probably it was just not mentioned.

Posted by: mightymarty2 Aug 16 2009, 8:19 AM

also how do you know no one was on holiday there from her realm and saving a planet is a big enough sacrife in most peoples book

Posted by: fullmoon Aug 16 2009, 8:34 AM

Oh! That is a good point! Hmm..a vacation to tides...

Posted by: {§hani™} Aug 16 2009, 11:00 AM

Sometimes i think the viewers are left to asume things on purpose. Like open ended knots and holes in the plot. But i must agree Tecna's sacrifice was huge and by far the best.

What were the other girsl sacrifices?
Bloom - She went to Pyros to find her 'inner dragon'
Flora - Saved her little sister Rose
Stella - saved her Father
Tecna - Closed the Gates of Omega
Musa - saved Athena? from the fire.
Layla - ???

Posted by: mightymarty2 Aug 16 2009, 11:17 AM

layla was sacrificing her sight to save a mermaid (i think it was the mermaid queen)

Posted by: P-girl Aug 16 2009, 11:20 AM

Layla got blinded by Valtor.
Layla needed this staff that worked on sunlight to get her sight back.
Mermaid queen has staff.
Mermaid queen was captured.
Winx free Mermaid Queen.
Mermaid Queen gets lethally injured during escape.
Sun is going down, staff can only be used once.
Layla goes 'Use it on the Queen!'
Queen is healed, Layla stays blind (At least until the sun comes up)
Sacrifice has been made. Bam. Enchantix.

Posted by: Jahnavi Aug 16 2009, 2:05 PM

Actually, Musa saved Galatea, Princess of Melody. (At least, that's her title in the RAI English version...)

Posted by: P-girl Aug 16 2009, 2:06 PM

Could be worse. I once confused Galatea with Barbatea, the librarian.

Posted by: winxclubrox23 Aug 16 2009, 9:41 PM

I've always thought of it like this:

By closing the Omega portal, Tecna not only saved Tides, but the entire Magical Dimension. Had she not actually closed the portal, it would have eventually effected the entire dimension, which includes Tecna's planet. So in a way, she was saving her own planet, only in advance.

Posted by: Boo Aug 16 2009, 10:58 PM

Interesting theory...

I always found it unclear when it came to whether closing the portal would just save Tides, or if it would have affected the rest of the realms. I'd also assumed that it eventually would have affected other realms, but that was simply the impression I received (was this ever really delved into during the series?)

I agree with Jahnavi; since the sacrifice was so great, I would think it would make up for not saving someone from her realm. That, and like Marty says, we don't know if someone from her realm was in Tides or not.


Something also on the subject:
As a note: I watch the 4kids version.
Was it just me, or when Tecna sacrificed herself, did Miss Farragonda seem... I don't know, a bit too unsympathetic? She seems to dote on Bloom, I know, and that was very clear with the whole Pyros plot... but it seemed while Tecna was gone (and when she was back), the headmistress didn't show much sympathy or pride towards her...
Like when she talked to the girls after the event occurred... to me, she didn't seem too shaken or upset (with the fact in mind that Tecna was one of her students...).
I mean... if Bloom was the one who had sacrificed herself... (I think you all know where I'm going with that.)
Maybe it's just me...

Posted by: SuperChick Aug 17 2009, 1:39 AM

Boo i do agree about farigonda.... all she really cares about seems to be bloom BUT Tecna in my opinion had a WAY better sacrafice in Bloom Tecna did not only save people from her relm but the ENTIRE planet of Tides which Is a verry big sacrafice

Posted by: fluidbender Aug 17 2009, 2:12 AM

Holy plotholes...I really never thought about how open ended some of the sequences in this season were until you guys brought it up, and the whole Ms. Faragonda emotion thing, she's never really shown any emotion about anything. She'll frown and turn her head, but that's about it. You know how leader types are; they try to stay as strong as possible so that everyone else around them can still rely on them. Not to mention you guys forget that Faragonda along with Griffith and Saladin fought with her parents in the Company of Light, so of course she'd have a bit more connection to Bloom than the other girls. None of them had their worlds destroyed before any of them came into knowledge of it.

Now to really think through it, the Enchantix storyline could easily be more confusing than any of the others now that those little plot stoppers have come up; with Charmix, Belivix and even their original series, nothing didn't seem to be as complicated it seemed. Everything with those storylines has been pretty straight through and easily understood; there weren't too many bumps in the road; however, then again, they didn't have a difficult requirement like Enchantix did.

Posted by: Another Morning Aug 17 2009, 3:20 AM

I thought it was either like Marty said and there was a random family from Tecna's planet that was on Tides when it all happened, or that by closing the portal she saved more than just Tides. But, if that was the case, and you could get your Enchantix by association, then wouldn't all the girls have gotten it a lot earlier? I mean, every time they stopped Baltor and the Trix from doing succeeding at anything, they were saving the whole dimention including their home planets. So if that was the case for Tecna, wouldn't it have applied to the other girls, too?

Posted by: winxclubrox23 Aug 17 2009, 3:54 AM

Haha, more like 'frowned and turned to look out the window.' Seriously, that's all the woman ever does.

Posted by: humbu111 Aug 17 2009, 5:53 AM

[noguests]Yup, I'd agree with Marty there. In a whole realm I think there's a good chance there would be someone else from Tecna's realm. Maybe it was supposed to be implied that Tebhak was from there or something?[/noguests]

Posted by: {§hani™} Aug 17 2009, 10:23 AM

perhaps.. but whatever it was they could have explained it a little at least!!

Posted by: fullmoon Aug 18 2009, 5:17 AM

Thats a good point. Maybe when they stop them, they are just stopping them from being one step close to destroying the dimension.

I do have to agree with Ms. F being unsympathetic but then again, Bloom is the main character so the world in the story kind of revolves around her. There are a lot of open end question in shows like these. We can even ask how does magic work?

Posted by: {§hani™} Sep 6 2009, 11:47 AM

i just realised soemthing..

thay Mis F reminds me of dumbledore.. but less awsome XD and less hairy.
and blooms not like harry potter at all O-O

Posted by: P-girl Sep 6 2009, 11:50 AM

Probably because the encompass the same archetype: the Old Mentor.

Posted by: Believixpower Mar 24 2010, 8:15 PM

Tecna got her enchatix because she scerfacted herself.

Posted by: P-girl Mar 24 2010, 8:18 PM

Yes, but the rules were clear at the beginning, you had so sacrifice yourself for someone from your own world. Where were they? Andros/Tides. Not Tecna's world.

Posted by: wkw427 Mar 24 2010, 8:30 PM

Saving the universe = saving your world

Posted by: P-girl Mar 24 2010, 8:35 PM

I didn't know Tides/Andros was the entire universe.

Posted by: wkw427 Mar 24 2010, 8:46 PM

Well, I'm pretty sure that it was stated somewhere that if the portal exploded the universe would also explode.. Rai eng btw

That does make the most sense, so I'm either going to say that, or Tecna got it because of the mid-season finalie.

Posted by: P-girl Mar 24 2010, 8:49 PM

I don't know..... Granted, my memory of Season 3's a bit fuzzy. But if it was properly explained like that, I doubt there would be as much yelling as there was.

Posted by: Abdu 6b Mar 30 2010, 12:30 AM

Hmm, maybe that old dude was from Tec's planet. What else I don't get is that Flora earned her Enchantix after risking her life for Miele. But Miele sacrificed herself first, so shouldn't she have Enchantix? Don't tell me there's an age cuz that'd be too weird.

Posted by: {§hani™} Mar 30 2010, 7:06 AM

eyah that doesnt make sence either. Maybe Miele isnt magical like flora? i dont know thats weird we dont actually know that much about Flora at all. Like were she came from her parents ect. We only knwo she has a younger sister and shes from Linphea.

Same with Tecna we know nothing about her which is sad really. I think theyre probably holes in the plot? who knows. XD

Posted by: P-girl Mar 30 2010, 8:24 AM

Guys. Miele is like.... what? Six years old? Of course she doesn't get Enchantix, she probably doesn't even know how to 'Winx out' yet. That's like asking my baby niece to go and do my Physics homework.

Posted by: {§hani™} Mar 31 2010, 10:28 AM

haha yeah and that too!! I got the impression Miele wasnt even magical like Flora but i could be wrong, your right she probably doesnt even have her winx yet.

Posted by: DP053742 Jun 13 2010, 2:07 PM

Dear fluidbender,

That is exactly what I am talking about, like you, I don't understand how Tecna earned her Enchantix without saving anyone from HER OWN Planet. Bloom's case you understand, but since she didn't earned her enchantix by saving anyone from her own planet, she didn't get the power to miniturize. I kind of feel sorry for Bloom, because she not only lost her birth parents, but her home planet, just like Superman. The reason that Bloom was the last surviving member of the Sparks royal family was because her older sister Daphne died trying to save her.

From,

DP053742

Posted by: DP053742 Jul 3 2010, 11:39 AM